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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185243920" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185243920">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@T-compiler/WG-meta</span> -- anybody around to meet?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185243925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185243925">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>It might just be me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185243938" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185243938">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span>, are you on the above user group btw?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244002" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244002">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I’m around</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244049">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Cool :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244077">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I was thinking  that a good next goal would be to create the "reducer and bisector" ICE-breaker</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244091" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244091">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think at this point the main blocker, which was <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span>'s work on <code>cargo bisect-rustc</code>, is done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244095">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe it's a good idea to setup a checklist</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244116">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I believe I am not on WG-meta, not yet at least. Probably should join.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244213" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244213">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>tmandry was asking recently about reduction tools</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244420" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244420">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244424" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244424">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm looking over the list of issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244466" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244466">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/174" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/174">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/174</a> -- which was for the LLVM group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244470" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244470">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>can presumably be closed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244475" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244475">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it provides a good "checklist" starting point I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244596" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244596">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
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<p>we need to update our compiler-team page to drive attention to these groups as a way to contribute</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244601">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>this work item never got done I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244787" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244787">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>What should we call it? "Cleanup ICE-breakers"? "Bisect-and-reduce ICE-breakers"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244792" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244792">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244804">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can't come up with something obvious</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244824">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Nothing springs to mind here.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244912" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244912">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know it's a tough one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185244916" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185244916">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>there has to be some kind of funny name :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185245281" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185245281">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe just "cleanup crew"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185245290" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185245290">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>it has that "team feeling"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185245433" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185245433">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK I created <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/207" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/207">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/207</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185245436" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185245436">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>which has a checklist</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185245441" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185245441">(Jan 09 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to use the next ten minut to work on that first item</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185255829" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185255829">(Jan 09 2020 at 21:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>First draft of a guide: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/pull/556" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/pull/556">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/pull/556</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185583380" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185583380">(Jan 14 2020 at 10:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Updated <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/pull/556" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/pull/556">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/pull/556</a> with a bit more</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185584090" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185584090">(Jan 14 2020 at 10:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>It all reads well to me.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.01.09/near/185595427" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E01.2E09.html#185595427">(Jan 14 2020 at 13:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> -- it'd be good to discuss at some point the release team triage wg and the compiler triage efforts and if/how it makes sense to "join forces". One thing we're thinking of doing is creating a "cleanup crew" that is aimed at minimizing and bisecting bugs, which seems pretty related (see above <span aria-label="point up" class="emoji emoji-1f446" role="img" title="point up">:point_up:</span> for more notes)</p>



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